469 :: How to Lead with Poise If/When in Midst of Panic

In episode 469 of the Construction Leadership Podcast, host Bradley Hartmann shares insights on leading with poise based on the advice of Nick Murray. Nick Murray, the tribal elder among leading financial advisors, hails from outside the construction industry, yet his leadership advice is rooted in the tendencies of human nature that affect us all. Murray emphasizes emotional control, trusting thoughtful long-term plans, and viewing equity investments as company ownership rather than mere stocks.

The episode remarks on the “full-blown investor panic” that consumed the first half of 2025 and invokes the wisdom of Rudyard Kipling's poem “If,” as well, underscoring the importance of maintaining composure and empathy as leaders.

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